If .50 calibre takes off....

[NitroBall]

This is great for Eclipse fans that cannot afford to change there markers with the new size paintball .


http://www.ballerscafe.com/forum/paintball-gear-news/41784-50-caliber-ego.html

[Bambulus]

And thus the "you'll have to buy all new equipment" argument is weakened.

How long do you reckon it will be until other manufacturers follow suit?

[Lump]

Now thats a very good move. Goes to show that a drop in kit can be done. This changes every thing :-)

[jagerpirate]

Sweet, great idea, I'm not too fussed about .5o but at least if it does come in then theres an option to keep existing kit. Although I disagree with you Lump, it changes nothing, people are still bitching and moaning about it!

[Devrij]

As always, Planet are at the head of the pack. Just gotta watch you don't take any .50 core samples with that barrel, looks a little weak.

[Gadget]

That .50 barrel looks ridiculous, like sticking a pipe cleaner to the front of your gun.

.50 cal for girls, .68 for real men, rarrrr ;)

Personally, until I see an unbiased side-by-side comparison between .50 and .68, I'm not going to believe any of the hype that's being generated by GiMilSim et al.

Sensible move by Planet as it means that people can keep buying PE markers knowing that their investment is protected - even if it does make their uber-light markers heavier. I also doubt if a drop-in kit will function as well as a custom designed .50 marker, as you're not going to have the same fine tolerances with multiple press-fit parts. New, longer detents will be needed and I wonder if there are eye issues if existing board logic is looking for a specific size projectile to transit the breech.

[Lump]

Ok unbiased opinion. 50. Is coming :-)

[Gadget]

Yeah but lump, you do have a bit of a reputation when it comes to buying new shiny bits......some of us hang onto our markers for oooh, weeks at a time :)

[Rider]

As always, Planet are at the head of the pack. Just gotta watch you don't take any .50 core samples with that barrel, looks a little weak.

not quite.

SP have already unveiled the .50 impulse, and dye have a kit in the works too.....

but it is good to see more manufacturers picking up the baton.

[Parksy]

not quite.

SP have already unveiled the .50 impulse, and dye have a kit in the works too.....

but it is good to see more manufacturers picking up the baton.

Problem with a .50 specific marker is there is no to increase the internal size of your gun, as opposed to a .68 being able to go down to a .50 as this drop in kit shows. Invest in a marker that does .50 cal and it fails? Bin your gat! :)

[Piper]

Problem with a .50 specific marker is there is no to increase the internal size of your gun, as opposed to a .68 being able to go down to a .50 as this drop in kit shows. Invest in a marker that does .50 cal and it fails? Bin your gat! :)

But if companies make drop in kits and people buy those (bare in mind it is their choice no one is forcing anyone to change) and 50 cal fails you just convert the gun back to 68 cal.

[thomas221289]

if .50 meets everything it says it will im gonna get it. iv herd dye have a rotor kit already planet have this kit! getting paint shouldnt be hard order from shops its what we normaly do and if you run out take the kits out and use .68!

i was against it now im starting to think its a good thing!

[Parksy]

But if companies make drop in kits and people buy those (bare in mind it is their choice no one is forcing anyone to change) and 50 cal fails you just convert the gun back to 68 cal.

That was my point Andy :) Am all for trying .50 cal myself. Would happily buy a drop in kit! Just would not be willing until I see if it is here to stay or not to invest in a gun that was specific to .50 (like the Impulse).

Am all for .50 if the propaganda lives up to the hype :) More paint in a pot, more in my hopper, better efficiency, whats not to like!

[Piper]

That was my point Andy :) Am all for trying .50 cal myself. Would happily buy a drop in kit! Just would not be willing until I see if it is here to stay or not to invest in a gun that was specific to .50 (like the Impulse).

Am all for .50 if the propaganda lives up to the hype :) More paint in a pot, more in my hopper, better efficiency, whats not to like!

OK it read like you were saying you would go buy the gun before the drop in kit........ All clear now.

I don't see the people involved spending all the time and money on the project not to make it work. For tournaments (and this is my opinion) I don't see it taking off right away. But for new fields starting up and exsisting fields that want to change their guns over, I see it making perfect sense to use 50 cal instead of 68 cal.

[Dark Warrior]

Pipes as you are the UK voice of .50 cal

Am I right in saying that the accuracy of the .50 cal partially comes from the fact that it is fired at a higher fps compared to .68 cal?

[Rider]

for what it's worth (who am i after all...) i agree with andy.

i think 50 cal is going to come from the new fields, or fields replacing gear, upwards.

reason: more profit.

after all if the balls are significantly cheaper wholesale, then the field can continue to charge the same "cost per ball" as before. after all, the majority of fields serve the stag do, birthday party, office group, etc who play once in a blue moon and can expect to pay a premium price. they don't know the differnece between 50 and 68 cal. all they know is they point and shoot. and it makes no difference to them either - as long as the paint flies straight enough and doesn't bounce like buggery.

when/if it creeps into the hands of more serious players it'll be because it has shown it does what it says on the tin.

rec players, like myself, are likely to pick it up if it has that better accuracy at longer ranges it claims, as well as the fact that we can carry more shots in the same space and get more shots per fill. but it will need to prove itself before i go there.

tourney players. i guess the thought of less reloading or smaller hoppers is appealing. the reduction in cost for the volume of paint would be beneficial. but i can see it being harder to ref games with smaller paint marks....

we shall see. give it a chance and we might all be pleasantly surprised.

i am of course with several others on this. i don't want to go buy a whole new expensive shiny toy, just to find it doesn't take off. i like my markers that i have now. if a drop in kit comes along at a sensible price, then i may well give it a shot.

[Piper]

Pipes as you are the UK voice of .50 cal

Am I right in saying that the accuracy of the .50 cal partially comes from the fact that it is fired at a higher fps compared to .68 cal?

Not that I know of no. All the testing that has been done was done at 280-290 fps for both 50 cal and 68 cal.

[thomas221289]

the thred should probs be renamed to when .50 takes off

[John C]

Pipes as you are the UK voice of .50 cal

Am I right in saying that the accuracy of the .50 cal partially comes from the fact that it is fired at a higher fps compared to .68 cal?

No, that was because the .68 paintballs they used in the test were collected by kids off the floor at the recent tourney.

[Tom Allen]

you will have more balls to shoot, per hopper, per pot, per box, per £.


This is where it matters..................now, stop all the moaning.

[NitroBall]

now, stop all the moaning.

This would'nt be a paintball forum if that happened:D

[Ainsley]

Embrace the future.

Read the Richmond article in the latest Face Full.....this is going to happen, and only good things can come from it. Most people on here upgrade their markers every year anyway, and with sizing kits coming into play I can't see any downsides.

For new and young players; even 'punters', the upside is huge - less pain (5.1 Joules compared to 14 for the .68 as stated in FF), and this is undoubtedly a huge factor for some people when considering playing paintball, and with marking capabilities almost identical and improved ball flight all round, its a win win.

As for the price.....who can argue that this isn't going to keep more people in the sport and attract more players if cost of playing is lowered.

[dextrus]

Never mind.

[3L1TE hax]

there going to hurt half as much? some times i can barely feel balls hit my pads, you could walk the gauntlet without even wincing if its half the strength.

[Balls deep]

Embrace the future.

Read the Richmond article in the latest Face Full.....this is going to happen, and only good things can come from it. Most people on here upgrade their markers every year anyway, and with sizing kits coming into play I can't see any downsides.

For new and young players; even 'punters', the upside is huge - less pain (5.1 Joules compared to 14 for the .68 as stated in FF), and this is undoubtedly a huge factor for some people when considering playing paintball, and with marking capabilities almost identical and improved ball flight all round, its a win win.

As for the price.....who can argue that this isn't going to keep more people in the sport and attract more players if cost of playing is lowered.

allthough with less pain you kinda lose the thing that stops people playing laser tag, but i reckon its a good idea anyway, all though its a bit of a problem to those of us who have just got their kit or dont have loads and loads of money to throw at it. If it does catch on then hopefully it will be more gradual, then everyones happy and if you wanna be differnt you can use the "old school" 0.68 kit as im sure thats what it will be called by then! :)

[Robbo]

Pipes as you are the UK voice of .50 cal

Am I right in saying that the accuracy of the .50 cal partially comes from the fact that it is fired at a higher fps compared to .68 cal?

The accuracy of any paintball comes from the spec it's manufactured to not from the velocity it is fired.

I had better declare an interest here inasmuch as I am working with Richmond as a consultant, nothing major, it's just helping out every now and then with this 50 cal project.

The .50 calibre ball is fired at exactly the same velocity as .68, the fact it has less kinetic energy (by virtue of a reduced mass) is a bonus when it comes to legislation in certain countries.

The accuracy however is an emergent property of consistency of fill and quality of roundness.
One thing to factor in tho is the effect of turbulence which of course will tend to affect the ball because of a reduced momentum.
Basically, because the ball is lighter, it takes less of a force to move it during its trajectory.
On the other hand, to offset this, you also have to factor in the reduced surface area, the force (for the same wind effect) will be less than .68 because of the reduced surface area; from rough calcs, it's about a 50% reduction in surface area.

Richmond has done an awful lot of testing on this product and it has been done under rigorous conditions but I suppose the acid test in anything new like this is when you try it ... you can have stats coming out yer ass but picking the marker up and firing the damn thing beats all them stats.

I spent about half hour on the phone with Chris Lasoya a month or so back, he has been involved in the testing and development and he told me he would use it in a heartbeat when playing ... 'bout says it all for me really.

[Gadget]

I'm interested to find out how large hits appear to be from .50 balls. By my reckoning the internal volume of a .50 ball is less than half that of a .68 ball (0.06545 cu in compared to 0.16464), which could make for some interesting paint checks during tournaments.....you know you're in a financial recession when you start checking for 5p size hits rather than 20p. ;)

[Ainsley]

Apparently (again taken from what I can remember of the Richmond interview from FF, which now has a place in my prime reading spot ;)), a percentage of the paint from a .68 cal explodes back towards its path, as seen in a lot of photographs, due to the energy it carries. With the .50 cal, as it carries less energy, less paint bounces back from its target......or something like that :D

[das_ist]

ive broke a .50 cal ball on the floor before and it wasnt as small as i thought it would be. i think it would make marshalling a little harder obviously but still very possible

[Dusty]

ive broke a .50 cal ball on the floor before and it wasnt as small as i thought it would be. i think it would make marshalling a little harder obviously but still very possible

Have to agree with you there, I've broken the .43 cal Kingman training paint on the floor and there's more there than you'd imagine.

I'd think they wouldn't be pumping this if it wasn't going to be viable.

[Gadget]

Given the frequency with which paintball companies embroider the truth in order to part us from our money, I'm not going to be satisfied on the viability of .50 until I get the opportunity to test it myself. After all, they promised that rifled barrels enhanced accuracy and range and that closed bolt and low pressure markers did the same. Let's not even mention the Magic Box :(

Although I realise that any change over would be a gradual process - you'd have to feel sorry for any teams with a large stock of Reballs if .50 does become the defacto standard. Kerching!

[AsylumDave]

I'm not sure if this is all still a big unknown or not but will us tourni ballers benefit in any way in terms of the cost of balling? Will we now be able to afford more paintballs or will manufacturers/suppliers be keeping the prices per however many rounds?

[NitroBall]

The .50 calibre ball is fired at exactly the same velocity as .68, the fact it has less kinetic energy (by virtue of a reduced mass) is a bonus when it comes to legislation in certain countries.

Is this one of the main reason .50 cal being introduced again ?
From reading the above, im assuming paintball is prohibited in other countries due to the size/mass and the energy a .68 cal produces.

[Robbo]

Is this one of the main reason .50 cal being introduced again ?
From reading the above, im assuming paintball is prohibited in other countries due to the size/mass and the energy a .68 cal produces.

This is not the reason no but it is one of the benefits.
The industry needed refinancing and the way things were going, waiting for things to start picking up again was a forlorn hope.
And even then, if the green shoots of recovery had been seen somewhere (which for the most, there hadn't) then the process would have been extended and weak.

If we assume .50 cal reaches critical mass (which in my humble opinion will take about 2 to 3 years) then the associated growth curves will be a lot steeper and therefore healthier.

Why should I care how the industry does?
I would hope that is self-evident but we do need a healthy industry for soo many reasons, I agree we don't need a greedy industry who rip the ass out of our wallets every time we buy something but we do need a competitive, healthy industry.

The good thing about 50 cal in my opinion is, it gives an opportunity for other companies to jump on board as they all manufacture their different brand of marker and equipment as before, but this time, 50 cal'd up to the eyeballs.

One sure thing is, the way things are going now, it don't look good without 50 cal with the number of big companies bound to contract.

Richmond developed this product because, like his other endeavors, he saw an opening and developed it as no other could.
I've got little doubt he will make it successful but like every other one of his paintball ideas, it's not so much Richmond who makes it successful but the product itself, he's merely the creator.

[Nicky T]

The real question is whose going to be king at shooting a .50cal ball out of the air with a .50cal ball :D

[Piper]

The real question is whose going to be king at shooting a .50cal ball out of the air with a .50cal ball :D

Me have been doing it for months.......... Best accuracy test there is......... so bring it Nicky T :D

[Robbo]

The real question is whose going to be king at shooting a .50cal ball out of the air with a .50cal ball :D

I did ten a row with .68 and I'll do the same with .50, wanna bet against it?

If so, how much Nicky boy???

:)

[Nicky T]

I did ten a row with .68 and I'll do the same with .50, wanna bet against it?

If so, how much Nicky boy???

:)

I'll take that bet :D

You can decide how much you want to lose :cool:

[Robbo]

I'll take that bet :D

You can decide how much you want to lose :cool:

OK let's make it interesting, 100 quid, the loser pays it into the NSPCC, on?

[Nicky T]

Deal :D

So just to clarify you have to shoot 10 50cal paintballs out of the air IN A ROW with 10 50cal paintballs? ;)

[thomas221289]

can we get this recorded?

[NitroBall]

Deal :D

So just to clarify you have to shoot 10 50cal paintballs out of the air IN A ROW with 10 50cal paintballs? ;)

18th this month at uttoxetter site, i'll bring down vid camera, you bring down this new .50 cal kit for my ego, and ill pay £50 to watch which can go towards NSPCC..

Need to bring yer balls..:p

[Nicky T]

I can make that date for sure ;)

Robbo, you free then and ready to bring along your 20 50cal balls (plus a couple of spares) :)

[Robbo]

Oh Uttoxeter eh???
I'll just drive a 300 mile round trip when it's just down the road from you northern monkeys ... yeah right !!!!!

It makes it worthwhile for me to just donate the money ...

Lemme think on this because even tho the kids benefit from all this either way, I quite fancy the glory of doing it.

By the way, I haven't even tried to do with one ball let alone ten, this might have something to do with the fact I ain't got any .50 cal paint or a .50 cal marker ....Pipes, you listening to this mate???

[Piper]

By the way, I haven't even tried to do with one ball let alone ten, this might have something to do with the fact I ain't got any .50 cal paint or a .50 cal marker ....Pipes, you listening to this mate???

There is always an excuse with you :D

I got ya back Robbo don't worry about that............. Now where did I put those guns????

[Nicky T]

Get Pipes on it :D

[Piper]

Get Pipes on it :D

All over it Nicky will have them next week and then it's on like donkey kong!!!!!

I will bring the pop corn and I am sure I will have to drive the old man as he will find some excuse not to go :D

[Nicky T]

Good work fella!

[Ainsley]

Does this mean we now get a joint training session from Nicky T, Pete and Pipes? :p

[Piper]

Does this mean we now get a joint training session from Nicky T, Pete and Pipes? :p

Sure why not............ Actually how many people would sign up for that?

Ainsley this maybe an expensive day for you :D

[Swampthing]

I’ve seen a 0.5" cal spyder/gi-milsim fm50/ a converted impulse/vibe look-alike and a kit from Planet that converts an ego breech but ive not seen a sausage on this new paint, are there any details on it yet?

When the rumors started on this there was talk about increasing the paintball velocity and increasing the fill density to compensate for the drop in size but we now know the velocity will be identical so is there any information about the new ball density?

When I first heard of 0.5" I thought it could bring into the sport a few benefits but now im not so sure. With the smaller projectile that requires less air and in the same pod pack we can carry over double the amount of paint onto the field, I'm worried how is this going to affect all aspects of the game.

I’ve seen the cons of 0.5" are listed as, lower cost, accuracy, load out capacity, air efficiency.

Isn’t the net result going to be everyone shooting more paint? So doesn’t that negate the cost aspect?

I'm starting to view this as nothing more than a money game,

[Ainsley]

Keep your section of the bill low Pipes; remeber I'm supplying the fillet steaks for the bbq ;)

[Evil Rich]

I’ve seen a 0.5" cal spyder/gi-milsim fm50/ a converted impulse/vibe look-alike and a kit from Planet that converts an ego breech but ive not seen a sausage on this new paint, are there any details on it yet?

When the rumors started on this there was talk about increasing the paintball velocity and increasing the fill density to compensate for the drop in size but we now know the velocity will be identical so is there any information about the new ball density?

When I first heard of 0.5" I thought it could bring into the sport a few benefits but now im not so sure. With the smaller projectile that requires less air and in the same pod pack we can carry over double the amount of paint onto the field, I'm worried how is this going to affect all aspects of the game.

I’ve seen the cons of 0.5" are listed as, lower cost, accuracy, load out capacity, air efficiency.

Isn’t the net result going to be everyone shooting more paint? So doesn’t that negate the cost aspect?

I'm starting to view this as nothing more than a money game,

Dave I'll bring round the Facefull magazine with an interesting write up about .50cal, it won't make .68 redundant over night according to the blurb. The two calibers will co-exist.

Due to less energy being displaced upon impact, more paint from the fill is left on the target then .68, where a lot of fill 'bounce's' off.

[thomas221289]

Dave I'll bring round the Facefull magazine with an interesting write up about .50cal, it won't make .68 redundant over night according to the blurb. The two calibers will co-exist.

Due to less energy being displaced upon impact, more paint from the fill is left on the target then .68, where a lot of fill 'bounce's' off.


bring it on sunday please! :D

[Robbo]

Sorry, don't do joint seminars, but I got no problem in watching Pipes and Nick give one :)

[Swampthing]

Dave I'll bring round the Facefull magazine with an interesting write up about .50cal, it won't make .68 redundant over night according to the blurb. The two calibers will co-exist.

Due to less energy being displaced upon impact, more paint from the fill is left on the target then .68, where a lot of fill 'bounce's' off.

I know they can co exist and it will take time to filter its way in, what I dont quite get is for the lighter paintball to break on impact with its lower K.E. the paintball shell will have to be more fragile (I guess thats why we are not seeing higher velocitys for this new ammo).

Is the paint shell quality going to get suddenly get better and cheaper with 50cal ??

Ive just read on the nation that the mass of the 0.5" is actually under the weight factor of 0.68", lower in density ???, personally i need to understand the maths on this.

[Robbo]

Ive just read on the nation that the mass of the 0.5" is actually under the weight factor of 0.68", lower in density ???, personally i need to understand the maths on this.

Swamp, please expand on this, I'm not sure what you mean here ...

[Robbo]

As for any co-existence?
This generally happens during the uptake period and up until about 18 months after the critical mass has been reached.

...but this is all predicated upon the notion it is superior.
And by that I mean, it performs better or costs less, or both.

If it performs better, then the uptake period will be considerably less as it will if it works out cheaper; if it's both, then I predict the update period about 18 months with an afterward crossover lag of about a year.

From what I have seen and been told, the paintball player has interesting time ahead ....

[Ainsley]

Sorry, don't do joint seminars, but I got no problem in watching Pipes and Nick give one :)

So you'll be eating all the steak while we work.....:eek:

[Robbo]

So you'll be eating all the steak while we work.....:eek:

I think the chances of me being there border upon the none and fcuk all .... I think I'll do it my garden and post up the vid on youtube, that seems a lot more civilised to me rather than driving all that way to where northern people live with their dominoes .... :)

[Dark Warrior]

Now this is worrying

"The Desert Eagle handgun is a powerful gas-operated, semi-automatic handgun capable of firing the .50 AE (Action Express) caliber round"

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=27

[Lump]

Now this is worrying

"The Desert Eagle handgun is a powerful gas-operated, semi-automatic handgun capable of firing the .50 AE (Action Express) caliber round"

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=27

why ?

[Dark Warrior]

why ?

Did not know that you could get a bullet that big fired out of a hand gun by gas?
And thats the same .50cal

[Lump]

dont see many of them at the masters though :p

[Swampthing]

Swamp, please expand on this, I'm not sure what you mean here ...

Id like to be able to Robbo thats my problem, but i cant find a source that I consider reliable, nor is there any published manufactures data on 0.50 . I read on pbnation that testers have weighed the new projectile 1.134g which is less than the scaled weight of the avarage 0.68 hence the suggesting it doesnt have a higher density fill. From what i can estimate 0.5 in theory it should be more accurate at short ranges only, this might explain the results posted on youtube by G.I. milsim considering there test is only 70ft.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iEafJVcZ6E

Id like more to go on, It would be nice to see an independant test at more than one range to get a better understanding what 0.5 means to the game but id guess we wont see that for some time yet. if i was doing a test to show the benefit of my product im going to set it up where the results are in my favour, better yet at a sweet spot.

Id like paintball to be more accurate, cheaper and more efficient but ive seen too many paintball manufactures claim this and that not to second guess.

[Robbo]

70ft, is short range???
I think 15-20 ft is short range mate.


We are talking paintball here Swamp not long distance sniper firing in Iraq.
I think 70ft is a pretty fair distance to do any testing mate especially when you begin to factor in the effects of windage on a paintball's trajectory after that.

And as I said before, I think we can have stats hangin out of our ass but the real test is when you use it.

[Dark Warrior]

dont see many of them at the masters though :p

Will have to look on ebay:eek:

[Swampthing]

70ft, is short range???
I think 15-20 ft is short range mate.

Ok ive just paced out 70ft, its a fair test distance, its not what i first pictured being a metric man :)

[Codiak]

Now this is worrying

"The Desert Eagle handgun is a powerful gas-operated, semi-automatic handgun capable of firing the .50 AE (Action Express) caliber round"

http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/detail.asp?smallarms_id=27

Dont worry DW the gas operation on a DE is harnessed from the spent round to eject the said spent round, load the next and **** the gun again ready to fire, no gas is used to shoot the bullets. :)

[Robbo]

Ok ive just paced out 70ft, its a fair test distance, its not what i first pictured being a metric man :)

Damn, I must be getting old, did you really have to pace out 70ft to get an idea of it????

I'll get my coat ......

[Rider]

i have to pace out metres.....

despite going through a metric education system, anything beyond small measures i do in Imperial.

[Gadget]

As for any co-existence?
This generally happens during the uptake period and up until about 18 months after the critical mass has been reached.

...but this is all predicated upon the notion it is superior.
And by that I mean, it performs better or costs less, or both.

If it performs better, then the uptake period will be considerably less as it will if it works out cheaper; if it's both, then I predict the update period about 18 months with an afterward crossover lag of about a year.

From what I have seen and been told, the paintball player has interesting time ahead ....

I reckon that could be true for the typical player on here (provided the hype is proven) - as p8nt members tend to be sup air gun whores who upgrade their marker annually.

But there is a massive segment of the market who won't transition that quickly, if at all. Older markers aren't just a financial decision for many, they're a hobby. The MCarterBrown forums give a good indication of the number of people who will continue to use their existing .68 equipment regardless.

I would imagine .68 paint will still be being produced in bulk in 5 and 10 years time.

[TheGurkha]

I'm curious about hopper upgrades.

and how fragile the paint will be...

[Robbo]

I'm curious about hopper upgrades.

and how fragile the paint will be...

The paint will be as fragile as it needs to be to break on any schmuck you shoot but not too fragile as to break in your barrel.

It took quite some time to strike that balance which had always been a major problem in .50 cal paintball technology but Richmond developed a way of doing it somehow; he's a clever chap ya know!

[Richie T]

Does anyone know how much a box of .50 cal is going to cost the player?

[Swampthing]

This shows what i was driving at yesterday ,Credit goes to incynr8 over on mcarterbrown

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tN_b7ZRl239-pwY28NcEXCA&output=html

[Dark Warrior]

This shows what i was driving at yesterday ,Credit goes to incynr8 over on mcarterbrown

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=tN_b7ZRl239-pwY28NcEXCA&output=html

So looking at those figures then, all we need is a .50cal ball with a dense fill to replicate the trajectory of a .68cal ball.

[Ainsley]

I've been thinking that Gurk as well - just thinking about the rotor now, I wonder if they can just simply switch out the upper rotating sorting system and replace with one that is more closely spaced to accommodate the smaller ball size?

[TheGurkha]

I've been thinking that Gurk as well - just thinking about the rotor now, I wonder if they can just simply switch out the upper rotating sorting system and replace with one that is more closely spaced to accommodate the smaller ball size?



The paint will be as fragile as it needs to be to break on any schmuck you shoot but not too fragile as to break in your barrel.

It took quite some time to strike that balance which had always been a major problem in .50 cal paintball technology but Richmond developed a way of doing it somehow; he's a clever chap ya know!


The rotor wont be much of a problem, i imagine a simply drop in mod that reduces the sise of the tray and paddles to accommodate the 50's. was more of the halo's and reloaders and such, that have older software boards. yeah, they can do a drop in mod, but will the 'non adjustable' boards just crush the paint? (hence my fragile question)


edit: wtf am i supposed to do with my qloader!!! lol

[Scotty J M]

fit even more in gurk!

[Buddha 3]

i have to pace out metres.....

despite going through a metric education system, anything beyond small measures i do in Imperial.

That's just because your "thing" sounds bigger in centimeters, right?

Phnar....


Okay, I'll shut up.

[TheGurkha]

fit even more in gurk!

that was my first thought, but it wont work :-( nex internals me thinks (although thinking about it, i'd need a whole new system!!)

[John C]

Did not know that you could get a bullet that big fired out of a hand gun by gas?
And thats the same .50cal

LOL

Thats the difference between gas operated and gas powered.


Im no gun nut, I shall confirm this with a friend who is. But im pretty certain they mean the hot gasses from the bullet are used to re **** the loading mechanism.
The energy is still stored in the gunpowder.

Of course you may be joking in which case egg and my face are in alignment.