50 cal Vote!!

[samfrost1308]

ok guys after all the talk about 50cal I just wanted to know how the paintball community feel about this. Is 50cal a good idea? base your answers on the info and guesses you have seen so far.
Lets see how people feel about the possible switchover!

[BubbleGumBob]

i dont think most people can comment on this until it has been well tested

[samfrost1308]

just based on all the info available at the moment, yes or no

[burnzy1989]

I am going to say no but only an till i can fire it my self then i will decide then as and for sure no or yes

[spangley_special]

just based on all the info available at the moment, yes or no

But it is ridiculous to base an opinion on hear say and propaganda.

[samfrost1308]

there has been some things released like ballistics data, curtosy of gadget, that is fact, other things out there are mainly guesses. I guess what i am looking for is just based on things being speculated at the moment what do people think of 50 cal

[Rider]

but to reiterate - why would anyone choose to switch to anything without trying it first?

i'd vote no - simply cause it is ridiculous to assume anyone would to switch to anything completely without trying it first.....

and as this thread was made in October - i'd like to nominate it for the plat "most pointless thread of october" award.

[Game]

really cant see all the rental sites changing all there guns in the current climate so no

[Tom Allen]

really cant see all the rental sites changing all there guns in the current climate so noBut what if i said to you "if you change to 50 cal, you will raise your profit margin by 33% overnight without any change in your business".

I doubt any site owner could afford not to change over.

[Syd (NSPL)]

The proofs in the pudding though. No site owner is going to change over if the experience he is deliverying to his client is worse. Well, no good site owner. If its an improved experience (for instance, less pain), then no good site owner would not change over. Finances are important, but mean nothing if you lose your customer base.

Only time will give us the answers we need. Patience.

[Care_Bears]

I totally agree with Rider ...:- pointless , there`s a great show of the .50 cal gat
now showing on techpb that might change peoples minds though...... Bluey

[Game]

all this asumes prices will drop for smaller balls

it didnt work that way for the curly wurly :)

[Tom Allen]

all this asumes prices will drop for smaller balls

it didnt work that way for the curly wurly :)or the mars bar:mad:

[samfrost1308]

all true, but what of the fps increase often talked about?
In tournament paintball, a "mugging" could become a very painfull experience, and although that may force someof us to better our game and mind our surroundings!, i dont think that is sensible. on the other hand, in rental paintball, there is the surrender rule, which may cure this problem slightly, but it will still be more painful than before. Any thoughts on that?

[SamFlyZ]

I dont really see the need for a .50 ball...

But then again, what do I know :)

[Hawkins]

But what if i said to you "if you change to 50 cal, you will raise your profit margin by 33% overnight without any change in your business".

I doubt any site owner could afford not to change over.

Im keeping my 68cal as i cant afford a 50 simple as that really more shots per fill

But what would be the cost of swapping all the gats over or buying all the drop in kits vs the profit increase ? How long would it take the get the money back and start making a bigger profit...

[Tom Allen]

Im keeping my 68cal as i cant afford a 50 simple as that really more shots per fill

But what would be the cost of swapping all the gats over or buying all the drop in kits vs the profit increase ? How long would it take the get the money back and start making a bigger profit...Well lets say on average the site owner made an extra £10 per customer with the new paint, and the average site gun costs £xx, you don't have to be a maths teacher to work out it won't take long.:)

[NitroBall]

Im keeping my 68cal as i cant afford a 50 simple as that really more shots per fill

But what would be the cost of swapping all the gats over or buying all the drop in kits vs the profit increase ? How long would it take the get the money back and start making a bigger profit...
How ive been reading this , 50cal is more or less aimed at site owners for now, help keeping costs down for field owners and possibly the punters. Less pain for those who experience paintball once or twice a year , hopefully see them come back to experience more , thus keeping site's and the sport healthy. Without these sites, the industry would collapse, and so the sport.

50cal would be an " option " for the rest of us, not forced as many think.
What lies for the future , wether 50cal will actually be the mainstream and take over 68cal eventually is unknown for some time. If 50cal does become the norm, it would take years for a change over, nothing to be worried about for now.

Like Syd has said in an earlier post, its too early to think that far ahead as its too early to say.

Jon @ LIps brought the Impulse 50 upto UKM 10 man today. With the new hopper , the new guerilla 48cu bottle/myth, and hopper full of 50cal paintballs, the whole setup weighed next to nothing.
He brought down two different grades of 50cal paintballs, unfortunately, i was too busy jumping on/off field all day to try it out. There were a couple players who shot it at the chrono, maybe they could post up there thoughts about it ?

[Hawkins]

Well lets say on average the site owner made an extra £10 per customer with the new paint, and the average site gun costs £xx, you don't have to be a maths teacher to work out it won't take long.:)

Then as you say, speaks for itself..

[DJForbes]

i have to say i wouldnt.

68 cal is bang on i see no need for it to change.
removing 68 from speedball will remove alot of the skill involved.

these balls are harder to see. less need to carry pods, and less need to refill the hopper.

for these 3 reasons i see no need to aim anymore. fire 2k balls is only 4-5 hoppers.


in woods ball range is an issue sumtimes when your down behind that last good cover befor a big open space. if these can match the range of 68s then there no good here either.

also sits tend to sell balls by the hopper.this means more balls in a hopper. people fire 200 in a game because they have 200. if they have 500 they will fire 500. i think this might increase the price to the punter not reduce it ?

i guess they claime the markers weigh less. anyone felt and ego? why would you need anything less wight that practicaly nothing ?

[Patch]

Thanks to Jon for letting me shot the 50 cal Impulse in the chrono area

Gun shot pretty damn well, I'm sure 2nd generation 50 cal markers will be right on the button with this size of paint, but the Impulse seemed to cope well

Although its a small ball, it left a decent amount of paint on the target - a wooden post. Obviously this may reduce when the paint hits something softer.

Would have been awesome to shot the marker in the crap weather we had on Sunday (strong wind, pouring down with rain) to see how it actually handled but was glad to have a rip of the upgraded marker and new paint - thanks!

[samfrost1308]

some good comments guys, keep them coming

[Piper]

all true, but what of the fps increase often talked about?
In tournament paintball, a "mugging" could become a very painfull experience, and although that may force someof us to better our game and mind our surroundings!, i dont think that is sensible. on the other hand, in rental paintball, there is the surrender rule, which may cure this problem slightly, but it will still be more painful than before. Any thoughts on that?

You don't need to increase the FPS, the joules that the .50 produce is 5 and a .68 gun produces 14 joules.......... So no increase in FPS and less joules = less pain..................

[tommy"the gun"webb]

ive fired a nano, its exactly the same just smaller, so much so be comes a little toy like. but im good for it , it not like we cant play with both......hits a hit. i still think the most revolutionary thing that can happen is dedicated indoor arenas for paintball. but thats off topic.

so all in all im excited at the prospect. it could change everything. or nothing?

[Terryfay1983]

How about for a brand new site? instead of having to change all your current markers etc, ya start from scratch with the 50cal one's? would the profit be that much better than using the 68c??

[Stark_Cyc]

Quite frankly if you have already read the topics covering .50 cal then you already know what people think about it. Cant see anything new brought to the table right now with an yes/no question. Btw you can find every possible yes/no opinion on the subject also at pbnation.

I guess I'm starting to get tired when prettymuch everything has been covered for now and same things are just going in an circle.

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